The Role of Women

If you’ve been paying any attention to the mainstream news coverage lately, you might have noticed that a certain church in Washington D.C. is questioning the role of women in the church and society, and even questioning the right of women to vote in America. That would go against 105 years of constitutional guarantee of a women’s voice in the affairs of this country.

This made me angry, especially when it was a church misrepresenting the scripture, and a high level government official, the Secretary of State, representing his point of view as a member of this church. What about Deborah, Judge of Israel, or Esther, Queen of Persia, or Abigail risking her life to keep David from doing a foolish thing he would regret when he became king.

Or in the New Testament,  Joanna, the “manager of Herod’s household; Susanna; and many others. These women were helping to support [Jesus and His disciples] out of their own means” (Luke 8:3). (… out of their own means.) That means they were businesswomen. And then there were countless women scattered throughout the region supporting the work of the new churches. These were women of equal weight and stature as men; some were deacons.

And then, in 1 Corinthians 11, a passage where some pastors and Bible teachers get the biblical authority to have husbands rule wives with a iron hand, we find this very balanced statement as to the place of men and women in the church. People who use 1 Corinthians 11 as a cudgel fail to see these two verses right there in the context of the whole chapter:

“But among the Lord’s people, women are not independent of men, and men are not independent of women. For although the first woman came from man, every other man was born from a woman, and everything comes from God.” (1 Corinthians 1:11-12)

Notice how everything comes out even here. The first woman came from man, but every other man in the history of the world came from a woman. And I think this is the most important part of the whole chapter yet we hardly ever hear it: “women are not independent of men, and men are not independent of women.” We are all dependent upon each other and subject to one another.

It’s similar to what Paul says in Ephesians 5, that we are to be submissive to one another — women in their respect for their husbands, and husbands in their willingness to give themselves up in loving their wives. It’s not just women being submissive to their husbands, it’s husbands and wives being submissive to each other.

And, by the way, “submissive” here means, “completely and utterly vulnerable.” Both vulnerable to each other. No one lording it over anyone. Who’s in charge here? The last part of verse 12 has the answer. “… and everything comes from God.”

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6 Responses to The Role of Women

  1. johnfa5112's avatar johnfa5112 says:

    Traditional patriarchy has failed to understand the biblical role of the man in a marriage. He is to love his wife as Jesus loved the church as gave his life for her. If a husband doesn’t deny himself, take up his cross and be willing to sacrifice for his wife he’s not following the Bible.

    Why were slaves told to obey their masters? Because in return for their service, their masters provided for them. Just like you listen to your employer because they hand you that paycheck that you can’t live without. Husbands/Fathers provided for the family thus they were due respect. It’s different today when most Husbands and wives are both bread winners.

    Tradition has got it wrong by saying servants are inferior and so are woman because their roles are subordination. Jesus came to serve and give his life as a ransom. He said if you want to be a leader, you make yourself a servant. Still, slaves have been abused and woman have been oppressed and some blame the Bible for these things. Jesus lifts up the humble and shames the proud. Far from being inferior, the servants, the slaves and the women were closer to Jesus.

  2. jwfisch's avatar jwfisch says:

    Amen, John. It really is a failure to understand serving, isn’t it?

  3. drewdsnider's avatar drewdsnider says:

    Thank you for writing that, John. (Funny: I woke up this morning before I read this, thinking it would be instructive to look Jesus’ view of women.) It’s important to keep up the measured, Biblical response to people taking non-Biblical ideology (note my use of the word) and making it sound legitimate. One of the favourites among the anti-women-in-ministry crowd is 1 Timothy 2:14, where Paul writes that “Adam was not deceived.”

    Except, yeah: he was. Genesis 3:6 tells us Eve gave the fruit to “her husband with her”, so he could have, at any time, said, “Honey, don’t.”

  4. Gary Mazart's avatar Gary Mazart says:

    Excellent exegesis. Please note that the primary scriptural reference is 1 Corinthians 11:11-12 (not 1 Corinthians 1:11-12).

  5. jwfisch's avatar jwfisch says:

    Yikes. I never thought of that passage in that way. It’s making Adam not responsible for his actions.

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